£25000 GR YARIS BRAND DEAL: What Happened? | A Disgrace or Norm?

744 zhlédnutí 75K
Auta a dopravní prostředky

Good Morning, Carmrades. Yesterday, the talk of Automotive Social Media community was the "25 000 Brand Deal" tweet by @Chris Harris on Cars : harrismonkey/status/1358790318011932674
What did actually happen? Why did this news come out? Is this a disgraceful anomaly or nothing out of ordinary? @Robert Mitchell and I have called Iain @Litchfield Motors to hear his story and opinion and gave you our take on it. But what do you think?
Topics and Time Stamps:
00:00 Good Morning, Carmrades.
00:32 Chris Harris Tweet
01:16 Calling Iain Litchfield
02:26 What happened?
04:15 Who is "at fault"?
04:54 "The Issue" and Crossing the Line
05:55 Why did you disclose this info?
08:20 Influencer Marketing opinion by Litchfield
09:13 GT-R Lap Record
09:26 Brand DealZ
11:20 Enlightment
12:00 Opinion from an "Influencer"
14:45 Where do you Draw the Line?
16:47 Apex Brand Deals
18:20 The Moral Issues here
21:10 SSC Example: Journalistic Integrity
22:46 Fine Line of Influencing
24:08 Transparency
25:40 What do you think?
26:10 PR vs Marketing
Robert's Instagram: robert_mitchell
For all your Nürburgring needs:
Taxis - Rental Cars - Hotel - Driver Training
www.apex-nuerburg.com
Get in touch with me on social:
mgcharoudin
www.tiktok.com/@mgcharoudin
mgcharoudin
www.linkedin.com/in/mishacharoudin/
www.twitch.tv/mgcharoudin

Komentáře

  1. Misha Charoudin
    Misha Charoudin
    Před 21 dnem

    Usually I heart all the comments (except truly offensive ones) because I love you and that way I keep track of what I have read when I sort by new. This time I am not doing it to avoid assumtions of opinion due to topic's delicacy. I do have to say that 2 hours after the video the objective-impartial and education level of commentary is top notch. You guys are the best.

    1. thomas bryce
      thomas bryce
      Před 11 dny

      @ArChAnGeLl 987 ... WELL said bro( or sis?) Do "the right thing" by your fellow man & soona or later you will be blessed 1way or another. 👍🙂👍

    2. ArChAnGeLl 987
      ArChAnGeLl 987
      Před 11 dny

      Misha, I only follow you guys because you're great, honest human beings. The rest of the things you do are just very nice extras and I enjoy it very much and I thank you honestly for it, BUT....to answer your question from the video...what do we think about it...My answer is...look up the word "influence(er)" in the disctionary...it literally means to change someone's view on something...now that sounds very well and dandy...but, as you guys pointed out very well in the video...this is NOT to be done at any cost...otherwise it is just snake oil selling...and very disingenuous and damaging for the rest of the folks that genuinely want to help promote other good, genuine products. And just to add my concern here...is that I see a lot of people that just buy, with their hard earned money, shady stuff of the internet or whatever, because someone influenced them to do it....that is nothing they've been promised by these so called influencers. So they end up losing money and the influencer making shady money. That is just not right no matter how you look at it (well honestly that is...). Anyways, thank you for being honest. Thank you for being open and transparent with what you guys do. And even if it sounds small, it is hugely appreciated. Thank you and good work!

    3. Irvy San
      Irvy San
      Před 19 dny

      💝

    4. BadBoyMorales
      BadBoyMorales
      Před 20 dny

      🤔😮people are to sensitive now a days. RIMAC ON NURBURGRINGGGGGG

    5. thomas bryce
      thomas bryce
      Před 20 dny

      Right back atcha Misha! 👍👍😎👍👍 You & Robert make GREAT content, that's why we're here bro!

  2. ADM
    ADM
    Před dnem

    I feel like you all should now go, spare your 85 minutes, leave your bias behind and listen to James talking to Yianni about the whole thing here: stereo.com/u/r21vVB96hXPCZ21 I wasn't on his side up until now. Recommend listening to the end, it's well worth it.

  3. will foggon
    will foggon
    Před 3 dny

    For me the question is about three things: 1) honesty to your audience: If you're doing paid promotions, don't pretend its your honest opinion when it's paid for. 2) respect for your business partners: Don't reach out to work on a project with a business partner in a way which is disrespectful to them and their product, 3) Don't be greedy in deals and know the value of your audience. In this instance this is about 2 and 3 - and it may also have been about 1). If you don't show respect and are greedy expect to be publicly shown up. This shows a lack of maturity from the marketing team. Massively overplaying their value. Expecting a guaranteed upfront fee plus a share of income is insane. Doing all of that while not showing respect for a prospective business partner, is naive.

  4. Robert King
    Robert King
    Před 5 dny

    So, by now everyone knows who the "influencer" in question is; his posted response on Instagram was pathetic and disingenuous to a nauseating degree. ANYONE who employs an agent or agency on their behalf to represent them commercially DOES NOT GET TO PRETEND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT AGENT IS DOING ON THEIR BEHALF! Period, full stop. Mr. JWW 's claim that he "...didn't believe what Litchfield stated happened to be the case." is fraudulent. No one in business EVER empowers agents to make business proposals on their behalf without knowing the parameters beforehand. So now Mr. JWW is a liar as well as a greedy bastard. Finally in a startling admission of his own stupidity and guilt Mr. JWW saw fit to play the victim in all of this on his Instagram posting by including that ludicrous "Cyberbullying" BULLSHIT at the end of his non-denial, denial post. What a cowardly, chickenshit move. Pretending to be a victim as a result of your OWN despicable action makes that initial action orders of magnitude WORSE than it otherwise would have been had you just fessed up. I now can't stand a single thing about Mr. JWW. He's a scumbag. He destroyed himself by being first: greedy and then a coward. Not a great look.

  5. F Kisman
    F Kisman
    Před 9 dny

    Could it be Carwow maybe? Presenter bought himself a GR Yaris recently i think, also someone with a marketing team🤔

  6. safmaze
    safmaze
    Před 9 dny

    cstree.info/block/video/l7FpmMdvmZ2sxJE.html Hi Misha started my own channel hope you like and help support me made some epic nurburing side by side comparison please give me some input.. Thanks bud

  7. BMW M2
    BMW M2
    Před 10 dny

    One of Schmee's crew said it wasn't them and then talked about JWW coping their Focus and Yaris projects. I just read the Instagram post from Mr JWW on this and he is deflecting this to cyberbullying. I'm not sure that is the focus here. It's trying to pimp out a supplier for using his donated parts.

  8. MattyBespoke
    MattyBespoke
    Před 11 dny

    His daddy bank rolls him and he still tries to extort companies... then the internet finds out! "blames management" JWW - Daddy the internet is being mean because they found out I'm a wanker please call your lawyer! dude is pathetic, if you still follow him, you must be a tool!

  9. StrikeEngine TV
    StrikeEngine TV
    Před 11 dny

    Paying for flights, hotels, wined and dined, gift bags and then expected to write an impartial review at the end of it...... Isn't this how car launches work?

  10. Fernando VILLARREAL
    Fernando VILLARREAL
    Před 11 dny

    That's the most awkward looking thumbnail I've seen of the 2 of you yet...

  11. Tom Wreford
    Tom Wreford
    Před 12 dny

    Great chat

  12. Erby One
    Erby One
    Před 12 dny

    Great vid gentlemen. As you've both said, it's a matter of integrity. We can all make an educated guess, as to who the 'influencer' in question is. I've always enjoyed their content, but this incident has made me re-evaluate my thoughts about them & their product.

  13. Michael Hughes
    Michael Hughes
    Před 13 dny

    There's nothing wrong with marketing or cold calling per se. The trouble I see in this instance, is that somebody has grossly overestimated their precieved worth. Imagine showing up unannounced, looking for a job and demanding set payment before any sort of work was offered. That takes a lot of balls. You better be prepared to establish what value you are offering the potential client before you start talking the terms of compensation. And those terms had better reflect the norms of the greater industry. What I'd love to know is how they arrived at 25k? What metrics were used to determine this number? The other important point is this, when you are cold calling, you are the one activity seeking work. And as such you are not necessarily the one in the driver's seat when negotiating the terms. This is about boundaries, and somebody clearly overstepped theirs.

  14. 2Fast2quick
    2Fast2quick
    Před 13 dny

    This smells like daddy's little girl....so mr.jww obviously

  15. Ralph Freeman
    Ralph Freeman
    Před 14 dny

    Have those who call themselves "Influencers" not considered that by so doing, they are accusing all their subscribers as being feeble minded ?

  16. Radon Racing
    Radon Racing
    Před 14 dny

    Shaggy did this song already *IT WASN'T SHMEE* 😉

  17. Kevin Grace
    Kevin Grace
    Před 14 dny

    Very cool to hear your thoughts on this topic. Definitely a very important issue in your influencer world that needs discussing. I also really appreciate your transparency on all of your work and the inner workings of the business. it is truly what sets you guys apart from the rest. Thanks man!

  18. Matthew Curtis
    Matthew Curtis
    Před 14 dny

    i laughed out loud as soon as the video started. you guys are great. stay under the crossfire and keep making good choices and great content.

  19. Josh
    Josh
    Před 14 dny

    59 seconds deep and its one of the two little British mommy's boys. You know the two who live off mummy and daddy?

  20. A G
    A G
    Před 15 dny

    Mr JWW is a muppet. Glad he has been exposed

  21. James Wohler
    James Wohler
    Před 15 dny

    Robert is really honest and straightforward.

  22. Anthony Cunningham
    Anthony Cunningham
    Před 15 dny

    To your point, there is a difference between content creators and influencers. Having said that, would this be an issue had it not been tweeted by Chris Harris? IJS! Don’t get me wrong, I am a fan of Chris.

  23. Brian Green
    Brian Green
    Před 15 dny

    The person in question is building a brand and business first and as a priority, off the back of being an enthusiast car channel. The car part is a means to an end. I think I prefer it when CStreers simply do a paid declared advert and do the whole awkward selling bit, like my fave line from a great channel on restoring cars where he does an advert for a men's ball shaver with the opening line " not only do I restore cars, I also restore my balls".

  24. Marco Kwan
    Marco Kwan
    Před 15 dny

    I've been watching both Misha and Robert's video for a while now and I fully understand Robert's position on "influencers" but honestly this whole thing seems overboard to me as no one have real evidence on who did it, allegedly Mr JWW but he already clarified it on his instagram. Believe him or not, I have no problem with people voicing their individual opinion but theres a fine line to that, went over then it's just cancel culture which is just absolute cancer as people don't have to be responsible for what they say online with a anonymous account. I love what both of you are doing with apex and youtube but this video to me seem a little overboard.

  25. ImBarryScottCSS
    ImBarryScottCSS
    Před 15 dny

    I actually don't have a problem with them asking the question. This is all a business at the end of the day and if you believe that is what your brand's worth then go ahead and ask. Buuuuuuuuut you can't then be mad when someone says fuck off and tells people what you're asking for. If you were being reasonable that wouldn't have happened and you only have yourself to blame. This is also on the caveat that obviously any content done in this way must be fully declared, your viewers must know what is sponsored and what is not. Right now things are happening at a slightly lower level where the viewers have no idea of the seedy deals being done to push certain brands.

  26. BMW M2
    BMW M2
    Před 15 dny

    We still haven't seen a CStreer step forward and confess to the Litchfield incident who wouldn't expose who when Chris Harris interviewed him.

  27. c winner
    c winner
    Před 16 dny

    We all know that this guy is ...JWW.... so disgusting!!! I hope that I'm wrong, i really do 😞

  28. Supercars of Madrid
    Supercars of Madrid
    Před 16 dny

    The Internet is back! 🤟 Interesting topic some people may unknown or just ignore what is behind. We are not living in a jelly beans or unicorns world. This is a platform where you can grow from scratch just sharing your passion, or you can grow with other kind of magic...

    1. Supercars of Madrid
      Supercars of Madrid
      Před 16 dny

      3. Nothing to care about. Even people would experience your work in the GR Yaris by renting a few laps on the Nurb (or wherever Apex would offer their services in the nearly future) and that's what people out there loves. Suscribers figures for Robert will increase, it's a matter of time. But don't waste too much time on this subjects because other creators are playing another league. You are playing and winning in your league. Keep going, take care, see you!

    2. Supercars of Madrid
      Supercars of Madrid
      Před 16 dny

      2. Later on it comes how people monetize its content. Its Okay to buy a GR just to upgrade it (earning money in the process). What changes between a video from Robert upgrading its GR Yaris Vs. any other other creator content doing 'the same thing'? Maybe in some sense it's the same, but people knows what seems true, and when there's something fishy...

  29. Alex Negroiu
    Alex Negroiu
    Před 16 dny

    Maybe, that influencer's marketing team was working for BMW previously. 😁 That could explain the approach they had to Litchfield. Judging from e business perspective it's not that striking, however the approach is questionable, kind of pushy. Great content, Misha!

  30. naz2468
    naz2468
    Před 17 dny

    once a content creator becomes too entitled i unsubscribe

  31. onkouth
    onkouth
    Před 17 dny

    Firstly, I don’t think Chris Harris had any right to disclose this, he professes to dislike influencers, yet he is one himself. Secondly, it was Shmee’s management who wrongly said it was James, as Ian Litchfield said and Robert eluded to, it wasn’t him, it may well have been his management company making decisions above their pay grade. This will hurt Mr JWWs channel, I feel if there was such a business offer it should have been politely declined and kept between the parties involved instead of childishly going around telling everyone about it. Not cool by Chris and I am a bit disgusted at Shmee’s mangers comments on it.

  32. michael potter
    michael potter
    Před 17 dny

    I wonder if JWW is the influencer who asked Apex for 'Influencer prices' when he went to Nurburgring ?

  33. Russell Kent
    Russell Kent
    Před 17 dny

    Reading jww comments on his gr video, somebody mentioned he's put something up on Instagram, I don't have an Instagram account so can't confirm what he has said or has not said

  34. Toothy36
    Toothy36
    Před 17 dny

    Noticed Matt at Carwow made content that he was buying a GR and we all should, then he got one from Toyota on loan! It’s not right.

  35. IGBO TIFOSI
    IGBO TIFOSI
    Před 17 dny

    Great videos with Litchfield too

  36. IGBO TIFOSI
    IGBO TIFOSI
    Před 17 dny

    My opinion: it’s all bullshit anyway. You can’t trust anyone and I wouldn’t.

  37. Sparky
    Sparky
    Před 17 dny

    Won’t do it for less than 30 grand he says. That USD? As the demand was £25k that’s about $34.6k (as I write). So maybe it was him. Hmmm

  38. James Cairney
    James Cairney
    Před 17 dny

    It wasn't me, it was a big bully that did it, wasn't me, the bully stole my shoes too! It was the big bully that did it, not me, honest it wasn't, it was a big bully, he called me a poo head!

  39. MarkMash17
    MarkMash17
    Před 17 dny

    Love your commentry on this boys!! - one of the best car channels around!! keep it up!!

  40. Paul Turnbull
    Paul Turnbull
    Před 17 dny

    The value of an ‘influencer’ would be to take a well funded but anonymous company with a product to the target demographic that is shared with the influencer. The fundamental mistake this ‘Petrol Head Influencer’ made is that Lichfield’s target market are already aware of Lichfield products and reputation. You could argue that an Influencer who has involvement with a company such as Lichfield benefits from an increase in their credibility. I suspect if Lichfield need to grow visibility as to the availability of the Yaris products, they just needed to drop a car off to Harry Metcalf.

  41. Mark's Random Videos
    Mark's Random Videos
    Před 17 dny

    This storm itself is way better and way cheaper marketing. Nice

  42. Platypus Hatstand
    Platypus Hatstand
    Před 17 dny

    Madness. Your channel & Robert’s provides honest content on pertinent topics. Due to the immediacy of technology, this medium means influencer ‘content’ can appear often without on the on-screen message “Paid content” (as would normally be seen on genuine content producers). This type of activity is no different to the likes of ‘paid’ 5-star Amazon ratings for unknown products; and in this case an unnamed and as yet unknown influencer.

  43. A F
    A F
    Před 17 dny

    25:25 *pounds* hmm... Also the coincidence lol interesting... It's most likely a UK based youtuber. So either Shmee or JWW.

    1. 2011CJM
      2011CJM
      Před 17 dny

      Litchfield is a uk based company

  44. John Bravo
    John Bravo
    Před 17 dny

    I don't even watch his channel (because he seemed like a douche), but my immediate thought was Mr. JWW...

  45. Eddie L
    Eddie L
    Před 17 dny

    It’s illegal, unless they state that it’s a paid promotion from Lichfield

  46. Steady Red
    Steady Red
    Před 18 dny

    Clarity and honesty on a subject as always.

  47. Can do Life
    Can do Life
    Před 18 dny

    Misha you should say you'll do it for 24,000, and throw in a foot massage to sweeten the deal

  48. Jamie B
    Jamie B
    Před 18 dny

    I wonder which car journalists would be considered an influencer, have a GR Yaris, have a management team and have a mercenary approach to accumulating wealth... 🤔

  49. Mbal 40
    Mbal 40
    Před 18 dny

    I get the feeling there some hot shot Jerry Maguire or Wolf of Wallstreet wannabe working for MrJWW’s marketing company who’s about to get fired! Like or loath MrJWW I can’t see him approving of this ‘offer’, he seems to have a little more integrity and business acumen to know this would be suicide for his channel

  50. One Eleven
    One Eleven
    Před 18 dny

    It’s grifting plain & simple...

  51. Nerdburg Channel
    Nerdburg Channel
    Před 18 dny

    J *cough* W *cough* W *cough*

  52. altypeRR
    altypeRR
    Před 18 dny

    I knew it wasn’t you or Robert as neither of you are obnoxious or stupid enough to call yourselves influencers. Influencers are those who think they are someone massively famous when outside of their following they are a nobody. In fact I’d go as far as to say if anyone calls themselves an influencer I take an instant dislike to them. You, Robert, Shmee and Sam for that matter I’d never insult by calling you influencers. You are real people who love showing their passion for cars and are always honest in what you do.

  53. The Tall Man
    The Tall Man
    Před 18 dny

    I stopped watching the channel in question a while ago. It went from a car enthusiast channel to a business advertisement channel.

  54. Shaiful Othman
    Shaiful Othman
    Před 18 dny

    While u two were yapping, I'm more interested to know how does that gr yaris feel cruising on the autobahn😀

  55. Simonada
    Simonada
    Před 18 dny

    How about using indicators when overtaking, changing lanes?

    1. Make Asylums Great Again • 10 years ago
      Make Asylums Great Again • 10 years ago
      Před 17 dny

      9:38 look he indicated

  56. mike wilson
    mike wilson
    Před 18 dny

    Very informative lads, ty!

  57. Milton
    Milton
    Před 18 dny

    I expect some money for watching this video....Send DM Misha for my IBAN details. Thanks

  58. Cornwall's Answer
    Cornwall's Answer
    Před 18 dny

    I never considered car channels as influencers. Some are good and some not but they are entertainment for car folks (or at least me).

  59. MarcusFZ1
    MarcusFZ1
    Před 18 dny

    Good video and on point. For me the amount of money asked is probably more than the avg annual wage in the UK. Also asking for the product is fine along with doing a series of video about the development etc. Getting this for free and making video content off this is perfectly fine. Asking for another huge sum on top of that is basically just taking the piss - be ashamed. I also agree that this has a more negative effect for the rest of the youtuber's out there. Next phone call to the same company is a plain no and sorry. It can on do more damage than good.

  60. Paul Ellis
    Paul Ellis
    Před 18 dny

    i wouldn't do it for less than 30 grand LOL can i get free stuff ........possibly depends what it is lol a sticker brilliant. Pure and simple it was ill advised as a business move, as Litchfield don't /won't make that sort of money selling suspension kits on this car. Secondly, Litchfield don't need that advertising they get it anyway. So a really dumb move.

  61. Colin Green
    Colin Green
    Před 18 dny

    Chris Harris and Iain Litchfield are old school and have genuine enthusiasm and integrity for all things cars. This issue undermines CStree because how can I trust the impartiality of content that I’m viewing as CStreers become commercial enterprises and grow their revenues anyway they can...

  62. Rai Noor
    Rai Noor
    Před 18 dny

    Mr JWW was a successful businessman before CStree, its obvious he employed a management company who went about it the wrong way. It was not him directly speaking as confirmed by this video. Which proves this was a publicity stunt

  63. yapira3d
    yapira3d
    Před 18 dny

    Have to say I don’t see what the issue is here. An influencer asked for money for something, it was too much, they said no. Not sure if I’m missing something here.

  64. langley241
    langley241
    Před 18 dny

    Seems cheap to me, probably £50k for a 30 sec advert, if the video is 10 mins and reaches a more specific audience then everyone wins

  65. Sarcodia UK
    Sarcodia UK
    Před 18 dny

    Mr JWW now trying to pass the blame to “agencies and agents” but that’s not going to be believed. He now has 2 problems caused by this...1 he can’t seriously go ahead with his Yaris project as it has lost all credibility and 2 Michelin are NOT going to be happy to be associated with someone doing this. Good luck JWW you’ve really shown yourself in a bad light.

    1. H. K.
      H. K.
      Před 18 dny

      Lol you think Michelin is doing all that shit for free. This happens all the time. Except someone got greedy and asked a pissy business owner and instead of just saying no thank you like a normal person. He went on a botched about how disrespectful that was to his massive ego........

  66. jason abbott
    jason abbott
    Před 18 dny

    I agree influencers should tread carefully and yes promote product what they believe in, is not all about the money is it!!!!! if you work hard the money will come in without this sort of behaviour. I hope this person will talk to his team about this, if he carries on this way he will fall. Great chat guys 😊

  67. Samieb155
    Samieb155
    Před 18 dny

    Funny Video Gents and a good shout to IL for being honest. My feeling is that the Marketing Co. have not only mis-understood/ mis-placed and mis-represented it's clients interests, values and requirements from potential future Brand Deals. Often comes back to 'if you want the job done properly, then do it yourself'. As Litchfield mentioned, he would've worked out a deal to supply and fit parts for an Influencer/ Client, but to ask for Money and Commission from future sales is a Bad Marketing Ploy/ practice on the whole YT community. The YT video with CH/ IL & Co, never mentioned or revealed who this person is by name. So it's everybody else whose been commenting on it, who has guessed who it possibly could be. In the end of the day it's down to the Influencer and his Marketing Co. to resolve the situation here. CH & Co. were simply highlighting/ disgussing both the right & wrong way to approach these potential opportunities.

  68. Sunrise Sunset
    Sunrise Sunset
    Před 18 dny

    It's not a mistake really, a good brand video is worth millions...

  69. Induleo
    Induleo
    Před 19 dny

    I do not want to defend anything, but i think that in other areas of influencing like fashion, selling your "influence" has been a thing for years. I would even say that this aggressive approach can be very common in other fields. So you better get used to it, I'm afraid, this will not go away. The car influencer area has grown so extremely quickly lately, that everyone wants to get a piece of it and some will be ready to make such aggressive approaches. Right now, i can think of one or two big influencer in relation to cars where i have the feeling they are "selling" their content and their enthusiasm for "the product" seems to be overplayed.

  70. Captain Mir
    Captain Mir
    Před 19 dny

    I would love to hoon around a GR on a Hill Rd

  71. JohnSav
    JohnSav
    Před 19 dny

    An absolute disgrace. A disgrace to the whole car community and a disgrace to the whole CStree engine. Mr JWW needs to be un-subbed far and wide.

  72. Scott Taylor
    Scott Taylor
    Před 19 dny

    Great video again guys. You are the voice of the people 👍

  73. Quick Nick Driver
    Quick Nick Driver
    Před 19 dny

    The terms in use are self explanatory. The arrogance of some people seemingly knows no bounds. We do all need to make a living, the fact that you can do so by following a passion to the nth degree gives your content a refreshing honest integrity. Your explanation of the product deals that you have sits perfectly with your culture of transparency and humility. Thank you for airing this episode, loved the way you started off with the phone conversation. Nothing like hearing the story first hand. Bravo. Live the dream and enjoy yourselves

  74. Cheeky Monkey
    Cheeky Monkey
    Před 19 dny

    Isn’t said youtuber a friend of your misha he’s been seen in videos and driving the ring with you 🤷🏻‍♂️

  75. Julian adams
    Julian adams
    Před 19 dny

    Great video and very balanced analysis. Defining the the line between reasonable and unacceptable might be tricky at times. Having said this if the facts have been correctly portrayed then the influencer in question needs to liaise with his marketing team to make sure that future deals are fair and equitable to both parties. I hope that he has the strength of character to acknowledge to Lichfield and his subscribers that this should have been handled a whole lot better.

  76. 1nt123
    1nt123
    Před 19 dny

    I Just bought 2 family packs of Snickers because of Robert's tier 1 influencing.

  77. Carvlogger
    Carvlogger
    Před 19 dny

    The one who REALLY "influenced" was Chris 😂 with one single tweet.

    1. gabriel gabes
      gabriel gabes
      Před 12 dny

      @ImBarryScottCSS grow up? Oh please, first of all, do your research before saying stupid things. He is a hypocrite, indeed, because he says himself he’s not an influencer and than he took that position influencing minds without knowing the full truth. So he is a hypocrite for doing something he did say he was against and that he was not. So, I turn it back to you, grow up!

    2. ImBarryScottCSS
      ImBarryScottCSS
      Před 15 dny

      @gabriel gabes Why is he a hypocrite? He just reported a story he had heard, and not even for personal gain, of anything it was altruistic. What can noone talk now incase they influence someone's opinion? Grow up

    3. vanderspaced
      vanderspaced
      Před 16 dny

      @gabriel gabes He's a motoring journalist. It's literally a part of his job. This isn't anything new. I don't know why people are surprised by anything here. Fuck me, nobody shamed Jeremy Clarkson for being an 'influencer'. I find it absurd that we're just slapping this new label on everything despite the fact that the only thing that has changed in many cases is the use of social media as a means of communication. There's a big difference between individuals using social media to comment on an issue and individuals using said communication as a means of financial or professional gain through distorting fact or representing the opinion of another (ie. Advertising). It is supremely ironic that people take issue with Chris pointing out THIS EXACT PROBLEM has earned him the same label as the person perpetrating this practice.

    4. gabriel gabes
      gabriel gabes
      Před 17 dny

      @vanderspaced hypocrite all the same

    5. vanderspaced
      vanderspaced
      Před 17 dny

      @gabriel gabes Sounds like a little 'tall poppy syndrome' there. People calling out bullshit has been around long before CStree and Chris strikes me as the type who has plenty of experience rocking the boat. The big difference is he believes what he says. It's not like it's clickbait or anything. Just because something is a little spicy, doesn't mean you can't put the spotlight on it.

  78. Lee Ryder
    Lee Ryder
    Před 19 dny

    Personally, I think it is a full-on, moral question and also what is wrong with the world.

  79. Alaina Callahan
    Alaina Callahan
    Před 19 dny

    I agree with Robert and Misha's comments. I understand Mr. Litchfield's position. I also understand the point of marketing companies. In my experience such companies often overstep the mark. The job of the marketing company is to obtain income for the client. In this case, the client's reputation has been impacted and even the future income potential of this individual. If Mr. Harris had said nothing the impacted parties would have been "quietly" annoyed. Do we owe morality and values to one another? Yes. Does that extend to someone's reputation? I think it does. In a connected world, how should society treat someone's reputation when everyone has an opinion?

  80. Lee Taylor
    Lee Taylor
    Před 19 dny

    Interesting Video - You talk about the fine line, and so this video could end up biting you in the ass at some point in the future when the line gets blured, moves or changes shape. I hope not because you guys rock, I actually dont think the video was a good move.

  81. Ian Cross
    Ian Cross
    Před 19 dny

    Clearly if it was someone from MrJWW team then he needs to sack him !!!!

  82. Thomas Koh
    Thomas Koh
    Před 19 dny

    I think that the influencer in question just needs to own up for this and accept it as a business error. Whether it was them or the marketing team, the tactics weren't right and unfortunately its gone public.

  83. Gero Armes
    Gero Armes
    Před 19 dny

    @Misha: you've been absolutely right! You are contend creators - thats what seperates you from influencers in my eyes. Most of them create stuff but it is only to sell stuff and has no valuable content. Regarding the situation I think that's just brazen. Getting a discount for making a video about the suspension and about the brand is the most you can expect in this situation. Keep it up - like your stuff👍

  84. Ian R McAllister
    Ian R McAllister
    Před 19 dny

    Good video, and good points raised - glad I came to watch (and hence subscribe, again!). I don't have a problem with the business approach - and interesting for Ian to say if it was the other way around, then a real cash payment would be appropriate for the subsequent marketing production. It's just the scale of the required payment (On the Collecting Cars/Chis Harris video, Ian mentions he expects to sell 30 kits - so effectively a demand of almost £1,000 cash against each sale of £3,000, and further an additional percentage on top of that), and as you mentioned the subsequent journalistic "integrity" of any review - without probably an #ADVERT sticker prominently applied. The supposed "influencer" involved has now come out with a new posting, saying that it was an errant agency and not him. I know from the music industry that "free" agents get paid by negotiating direct payments that are not passed onto the artist. So the cash and percentage request could be for paying for the agents work? But its still under that influencers brand/business, and hence the person needs to take ownership of that inappropriate scale demand (there a re a lot of people saying "Oh it wasn't the person, therefore its not true", but that side steps the issue that that person runs and owns that brand that made the approach) - Good Luck!

  85. Thio _246
    Thio _246
    Před 19 dny

    What makes me truly angry about the video is that your bad mouthing a youtube creator and ruining his channel when he didn't even have contact with the company and it was his manager and you didn't even wait for the youtuber to issue a response.

    1. unicorn7337
      unicorn7337
      Před 18 dny

      Sorry but a content creator's management team would not be offering potential collaborations like that without the blessing of the creator themselves first of all. I don't believe for one second that their management team/person called up Litchfield and made this offer without them being aware that it was happening.

  86. Ethan Coffman
    Ethan Coffman
    Před 19 dny

    Anyone else think it could be carwow

  87. Phil Cliffe
    Phil Cliffe
    Před 19 dny

    Someone posted that they were surprised a certain content creator did not have any more subscribers. Well now you know.

  88. Phil Cliffe
    Phil Cliffe
    Před 19 dny

    I do not believe that the marketing team would not do anything without the content creators say so.

  89. Phil Cliffe
    Phil Cliffe
    Před 19 dny

    Lichfield did the right thing. If it was me I would name them. Cheeky greedy bastards.

  90. Mrdfastcars
    Mrdfastcars
    Před 19 dny

    how much did CH pay Litchfield for his repaint on his 911 Touring that would be a good question. :-) or what's his cut on CC auctions ? £25k is nothing people get 1/2 a million for one Photoshoot in other you tube area's or promotions. How much money will this one vid make ? again a great question for a click bait vid, 50k views already. Post in a month what this vid made please.

  91. R R8T3D
    R R8T3D
    Před 19 dny

    So honest question about Chris and his comments. Does he get free Porsche's as he seems to be a fanboy/influencer going way back. I'm sure plenty of people have bought that brand based on his reviews. As other industries have done it so if James does it and is just the first "Kardashian" in the space is he that bad. I'm sure the youtube money wont last forever.

    1. littlebigcat
      littlebigcat
      Před 19 dny

      Chris Harris’ story is very much in the public domain. Including his fall out with Porsche(and Ferrari)

  92. Frankestein01nl
    Frankestein01nl
    Před 19 dny

    Mafia practices, now "influenced" ..

  93. beatonthedonis47
    beatonthedonis47
    Před 19 dny

    Google, Facebook etc. should require all uploaders to clearly mark content 'sponsored content' whenever money/goods/services/good will changes hands with brands.

  94. Alan Townsley
    Alan Townsley
    Před 19 dny

    Off topic but I still can’t believe you two are cruising down the road in a YARIS!😂

  95. Noships
    Noships
    Před 19 dny

    Congrats on the free snickers Robert, I'm really happy for you!

  96. Merv
    Merv
    Před 19 dny

    I think audacious is a good word for it.. That and rude.. I mean there's nothing wrong with backing yourself and swinging for the hills sometimes. But that is a rude offer.

  97. Orlando Peña Hernandez
    Orlando Peña Hernandez
    Před 19 dny

    Also bigger auto youtubers like the stradman and DDE do their own brand deals.

    1. Make Asylums Great Again • 10 years ago
      Make Asylums Great Again • 10 years ago
      Před 17 dny

      I doubt you’re privy to the how either of the two you listed work their brand deals. What you see on video and what happens off camera are two different beasts, these larger channels have management/team that helps them with business.

  98. Orlando Peña Hernandez
    Orlando Peña Hernandez
    Před 19 dny

    And honestly is not like the guy has more than 500k views per video to ask for that cash, dude is way under 200k.

  99. Maximum Attack Rally
    Maximum Attack Rally
    Před 19 dny

    First video of yours I've watched - decent balanced debate on what is a really complex subject. Interesting that Robert brought up the issue of travel/accommodation expenses, as it's an issue that could be aimed at traditional print media when they fly first class and are put up in a fancy hotel on a car launch. It's a very fine line. The problem is, with some influencers, there isn't quite enough objective review. They're showing viewers what an awesome time they're having, which is fine but, in a lot of cases, we don't often here open criticism of cars/products if they don't like something, which I think undermines the whole influencer model - no car or product is perfect. In the case of this influencer, he or his team just massively over estimated both his own value, and the revenue potential of the product they were trying to obtain. It was a silly error and, while they appear to now be on the defensive, it has exposed an important debate that we should be having. In terms of brand promotion and commercial deals, there isn't nearly enough transparency in the automotive influencer sphere, so it's good that people are talking about it more.

  100. Mouse Mota
    Mouse Mota
    Před 19 dny

    Agree with you guys ....all very poor form ! Yes yes yes that's all well and good but,,,,,,,,,,,, where the hell you driving to .....felt like I was watching Fast & Furious 6 "the runway scene"